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    Question W221 m.y. 2009 Command duyng - budget wrecker?

    Hi all!

    I am a pc tehnican in a company and I virtually do anything - service laptops, pc's and electronics.
    Yesterday my boss comes to me with a sad face - navigation (and pretty much everything else) on his S350 started dying. The symtoms are:
    A week ago the clock in the navi started keeping back and system did not save set time after restart (ignition off). A couple days ago the unit stopped booting - shows merc logo and blanks and logo again and so on.
    He also got quoted ~5k Eur for a new unit. I know, it is a Mercedes, but for the love of God, it is a system, far behind Pioneer Avic, which costs around 1k.
    Are there any specialists on this matter? Since the sistem works from hdd, I have very strong suspicion, the case is a dead hdd. I could only hope that when MB dealer removes the system, I can figure out the problem myself.

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    Doesnt the car have 3 years warranty ?

    Talk to sales@comandonline.co.uk - they may be able to get a Mercedes used unit with guarantee (from Mercedes), but even used units are not at all cheap

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    Quote Originally Posted by richard View Post
    Doesnt the car have 3 years warranty ?
    R
    Sadly, it is m.y. 2006. Got confused with papers...
    If it would be only navigation, wouldn't spend even 100 Pounds on it, but since it controls heating, clima and pretty much everything else... we're stuck...
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    Finally had time to remove the unit and check it out.
    Here goes the list of important parts:
    Harddrive - Hitachi 2.5" IDE 20Gb
    DVD - Fujitsu
    CPU - Xilinx
    OS- QNX Rtos V4.x
    Filesystem on Harddrive - qnx4-fs
    Would be a shame to donate some thousand pounds to Mercedes just because of dead harddrive.
    The one I am trying to revive is still working - got a full image to another, using qnx 6.5 live cd and a pc.
    If the filesystem will be to damaged, I will have to search for someone, who wants to get some spare cash in exchange for harddrive image.
    System is rather similar to Dodge's entertainment system and a bit to BMW iDrive. Nothing too fancy there.
    Most of the programming is done in Ukraine... yes, in Ukraine...
    Still feel like paying 5k Pounds for that system?

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    COMAND ONLINE sell the hard drive.
    www.benzmodz.com .... putting the Me into Mercedes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BenzModz View Post
    COMAND ONLINE sell the hard drive.
    ..probably, only to well-known clients.

    Anyone able to get a hdd image for me for a reasonable paypal award? Not a hard task to do and will take only half hour of your time and some 10-20 gigs of internet to upload and everyone will benefit from repair howto in case of harddrive failure.
    I am more than sure that those drives will be dying more and more as time goes for the first W221 cars.
    I think the best would be to replace them with 32gig CF card + laptop ide adapter.

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    Quote Originally Posted by january View Post
    ..probably, only to well-known clients.

    Anyone able to get a hdd image for me for a reasonable paypal award? Not a hard task to do and will take only half hour of your time and some 10-20 gigs of internet to upload and everyone will benefit from repair howto in case of harddrive failure.
    I am more than sure that those drives will be dying more and more as time goes for the first W221 cars.
    I think the best would be to replace them with 32gig CF card + laptop ide adapter.
    The hard drive is a spare part.
    www.benzmodz.com .... putting the Me into Mercedes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BenzModz View Post
    The hard drive is a spare part.
    Could you pm the price to me then, because I contacted Commandonline and got only offer to repair it. Not a bad offer too, but since my country coverage in this navigation is poor to say the least, I am trying to spend as little as possible on it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by january View Post
    Could you pm the price to me then, because I contacted Commandonline and got only offer to repair it. Not a bad offer too, but since my country coverage in this navigation is poor to say the least, I am trying to spend as little as possible on it.

    Spend Class = S-Class

    If you are trying to save money then I think we already started with the wrong car.
    www.benzmodz.com .... putting the Me into Mercedes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BenzModz View Post
    Spend Class = S-Class
    If you are trying to save money then I think we already started with the wrong car.
    We do not save money on maintenance, fuel, tires, oils, etc., but I would not spend money on device, that is not really functional, even when working completely.
    Yes, I do understand that people, who buy S-class are rich, but they are in no way dumb and the way they bought this car is by managing their money wisely.
    I guess, it is the same thing about S-class and Apple products - they are cool because they are cool and it has nothing to do with quality - pure style.
    About car being wrong - you are probably right - after thinking about those couple years of owning this Merc, I do not think that our company had to bare all these unnecessary costs just because we needed a represent-able car. S-class is in no way as dependable and good as it was in 90ties and I think, everyone will admit that.

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