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    Default S class reversing camera to W203

    OK my friends, I'm new in this forum so I hope I wont be left back for that.
    My question is some think which has puzzeled me that I saw on an other forum But I do not see a lot of activity to see if it is feasable, because I'm interested if it can be done ??

    If a W203 2006 fitted with a comand NTG2.5 properly code and workig to the driver satisfaction also a backup camera is already installed and activated when the reverse gear is engaged.
    Now is it possible to insert inline with the camera and the Comand the REVERSE CONTROL MODULE from the S Class or the W164 to get the reverse parking and parallele lines .

    I was told that a C. Module from 2007 could work but the Can bus communication is faster on the S class.

    But I found out that the control module from the W164 is much cheapper than the one of the S class.
    According to WIS the control modules loocks identical and if feasable I could get W164 module and S class wiring harnes.

    Please some confirm

    This is my car
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    This is what I would like to get

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    Its easier than that :-)

    Put 06/09 or 01/10 firmware on the COMAND, and it has the ability to display lines in-built.

    06/09 displays lines for ML/GL/R (i.e lines not so perfect on other models) - I think 01/10 may support more but I haven't checked.

    Obviously developer mode Star diagnosis is needed to turn this on, and Star diagnosis is needed to update the system.

    R

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    Thanks verry much Richard ,
    I have 06/09 firmware, you says that display lines are built in ,do you mean the green virtual extention of the vehicle longitudinal axis or both including the virtual steering angle lines

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    Any one else has any infos to give on this.
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    I have played with the S-Class and the ML-Class reversing control module for the camera.

    Your greatest problem is that you can not sufficiently code the module since the central gateway imagines that it does not exist even when connected.

    In other words, if you have some rotational correction to perform you will not be able to code the module 100%.

    It will always be a little wrong. The other consideration is that there is no canbus signal in the area you are thinking of using the module. So you must extend the CAN-B wires.

    It can be done but not cheaply or easily.
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    Thanks for your useful input BenzMods.
    If this mod is feasible , I'm willing to take this chalenge up to the end no matter what.
    Is the difference of the CAN bus speed the major problem for the S class module to interprete the steering angle rotation ?

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    Ok, it seems that not a lot MB Guru can confirm the feasabilty of this retrofit , I'm gettint to a dead end forum or I'm asking the wrong questions !!!

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    I dont know what the question is. The answer is that it is possible. The other answer is that it can not be easily coded.

    Nothing to do with speed or model series. It has much to do with central gateway coding functions being excluded in the C-Class.
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    Thanks again BenzModz,
    In this field you are the expert and I,m the novice, therefore I take all feedback seriousely.
    This was my theory, thinking by connecting a s221 or w164 Backup camera CM it would read informations from the CAN bus (Steering wheel angle, speed , etc) to overlay the graphic on the backup camera image.
    And then use the model 164 or 221 on SDS to calibate the track and steering.If I understand right the reverse control module wont be detected by the W203 because it is not supposed to be there ?
    Right !

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    a) you must have a W164 COMAND with a W203 front face

    b) The W164 ML only has this module you mention in Japan.

    c) The S-Class module certainly can work with the W203

    d) The canbus is only for steering angle.
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